I do know this person in real life, however all identifying references have been removed. (If you’d like to out yourself man, be my guest but I’m going to respect your privacy as not all the internet is as forgiving as others.) I share this with you because I’ve found that a lot of people put pressure on other people to find God, once they finally do they are told they found the wrong God because it’s not their God. This chat occurred last night after a tweet about my disdain for BYU.

Man:
Man from MyBlog here, are you there?
Casey:
yup
Man:
wanna here my thoughts? are should i leave you be?
Casey:
about me being a bad person? I’m totally interested.
Man:
oh, so you already know? : )that helps
Casey:
are you kidding me?
Man:
well, i am right now
Casey:
a lot gets lost in translation in 140 characters or less.
Man:
but i stopped following you because i think you use cheapness to garner attention
Casey:
that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
Man:
indeed it is
and i read enuf on your blog to wonder why you would call yourself LDS
you might guess i’m totally against LDS…but
Casey:

are you sure you’re reading the right blog?

Man:

if you are gonna say that’s what you believe it ought to show. yeah, the one i read had to do with gays
Casey:
I love all people.
Man:
it was a while back, i even made a comment. i love all people too
Casey:
the prop 8 post?
Man:
probably but wait…you use sex a lot in your posts to excite
Casey:
I really don’t…
Man:
that’s not an approved Biblical concept there
Casey:
I’m not even sure I’ve used the word sex in any post of mine.
Man:
you probably haven’t, but c’mon
Casey:
It is and approved biblical concept that I make out with my husband.
Did your wife ever experience infertility?
Or anyone close to you?
Man:
i even remember when we met at [that thing we met at], and i saw you twittering in the big room…
hang on – short phone call, almost done if you’re still there
Casey:
I’m sorry that you think I’m cheap.  Or that I gave you the wrong impression, but who I am online is who I am in real life. Whether you like it or not, nobody’s opinion of me will ever change who I am unless it’s my opinion or God’s.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish.
No one forces you to read my blog or my tweets.

Man:

it would be a lot easier to have a conversation about this, but i don’t think that’s what you’d wanna do.  mostly i’d just like to encourage you to take a serious look at God’s word and compare that to how you think…
i’m not here to bash you, but you words are not in line with Biblical teaching…
you can get mad at me if you want
but you need to hear that
Casey:
I’m not mad, I just don’t argue about God, what works for me doesn’t work for you and vice versa and that’s fine.
Man:
for YOUR good, not mine
Casey:
And that’s fine.
Man:
not really fine, either one, or both of us is wrong
Casey:
What does it matter if we are both happy with our lives?
Man:
cuz happy don’t get you to Heaven, you might be happy and go to heaven…but i sure wouldn’t trade happy here for Hell
and before you get mad, i’m not saying you are going to hell…i don’t have any way to know
Casey:
I’m not going to hell, neither are you…
Man:
ok, but why do you think you are not? do you wanna try a short skype call?
Casey:
I don’t understand why it’s so important to you?
If you don’t like the LDS religion wouldn’t you rather me be out there perpetuating your negative image of my chosen faith?
Man:
do you remember that i run the pro-life music fest?
Casey:
I do remember that, a worthy cause.
Man:
no, i want you to go to Heaven
Casey:
I am going to heaven.
Man:
LDS won’t get you there
Casey:
It will get me there, and my family will be there too.
Man:
well, then it seems to me that you don’t believe the Bible and you are more than free to not believe, it just comes with consequences
Casey:
I do believe…is this based soley on the prop 8 post?
Man:
no, not at all
Casey:
I mean the last post I did was about my difficulties in trying to have a baby, the one before that was about feeding hungry children. I had one about how much I love my husband and my child.
Man:
so, good cancels bad? no sin if you do enuf good?
Casey:
I just don’t get what I write about that is so offensive to you?
Man:
that’s noy Biblical
Casey:
I don’t get where my glaring sins come through on my blog, yes I have them, but who are you to judge? I leave the Judging up to Jesus. As it should be. Why are you so worried about my salvation anyway? I’ve got it figured out for me.
Man:
as do i, but the Bible clearly teaches that we should confront those who say they believe but aren’t walking as they should
Casey:
I love my life.
Man:
that’s not judging
Casey:
Ah ha…well. my blog is 1/16th of my actual ife.
Man:
God is the only one who can judge, i have no power
Casey:
if you only see 1/16th of my actual life (if even that) I’m pretty sure I’m good.
Man:
no one is good, certainly not me
Casey:
me nither, but I do my best from sun up to sundown.
Man:
that’s the problem, we are all headed to Hell, unless…
Casey:
I slip sometimes.
Man:
unless we find the way that leads to Heaven
Casey:
That’s the difference, we are not all headed to hell.
Man:
and that’s only thru Christ
Casey:
we are headed to different degrees of heaven. I can send you some missionaries to explain it to you…
Man:
we are all born headed for Hell, you don’t agree?
Casey:
nope. where’s the hope in that?
Man:
you don’t seem to know much about the Bible the hope is only in Christ
Casey:
you don’t seem to know much about my faith.
Man:
that’s the point!
Casey:
so why not let me worship as I please?
Man:
you can, i care enuf to converse tho, if you want me to leave, i will
Casey:
I’m not changing my faith on the opinion of anyone.
Man:
didn’t expect you would…but i did hope to challenge your thoughts and to do so in love
Casey:
what religion do you consider yourself?
Man:
Christian
Casey:
what denomination?
Man:
not a denomination
Casey:
OH. well
Man:
there aren’t any in the Bible it’s all about Christ
Casey:
the name of my church is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
He’s in the name, yo.
Man:
denominations are like clubs to people these days
Casey:
well, I like my “club”
Man:
yeah, i know, i was one when i was akid
Casey:
LDS? or in a club
Man:
but Christ is not at the center of LDS
Casey:
he totally is.
Man:
and that’s easy to research
Casey:
if you only look for what you want to look for.
Man:
not the Christ of the Bible…they’ve made a different one – similar but different
Casey:
my husband keeps telling me this is never going to end.
Man:
probably right
Casey:
You are a child of God, I am a child of God, Jesus loves you, Jesus loves me, please respect me because I respect you.
Man:
well, that certainly takes the “i’m a sinner and need salvation” part out of it all
Casey:
That’s not what I said…
Man:
that’s usually what people wanna leave out and that’s the pivot point
Casey
Man, goodnight.
Man:
well, i haven’t been mean or nasty
Casey:
I haven’t said you have been.

Man:
so i hope that speaks to you
Casey:
I hope I haven’t been either.
Man:
and, i did just what you said, i stopped following you
Casey:
I appreciate your concern in sharing your opinion.
Man:
that’s what started this
Casey:
People unfollow me everyday.
Man:
but i do wish you would want to talk about all this
Casey
People send me nasty letters when they find out my choice of religion.
Man:
that’s not why i left
Casey:
They like me up until they find out why I’m “one of them” I like being “one of them”
Man:
it’s because you use the weakness of human nature to puff you up and that’s cheap
Casey:
the weakness of human nature?
Man:

just as i said, our sinful nature
Casey:
that BYU stinks?
Man:
your posts appeal to our sinful nature a lot, that’s my point
Casey:
There’s a lot of other bloggers who need a lot more help than me.
Wha?
Man:
why would someone wanting to please God do that? yes there are, but i only know you
Casey:
allow me to introduce you to a few…
Man:
you do remember me from [that place we met], right?
Casey:
I do remember you
Man:
you sat at my table in the big room
Casey:
yes. and we sat along the wall and talked about your concerts
Man:
and then at the meeting in the evening, yeah, so, i met you, maybe for a reason
Casey:
or maybe I met you for a reason.
Man:
maybe
Casey:
I want to spend friday evening with my husband, Man.
Man:
but i can tell you that i have experienced Christ in a way that gives me the strength to say you can put a bullet in my head, I will never deny Him
Casey:
Same here, goodnight Man.
Man:
i honestly doubt it…. have agreat eve

Now, I may not spend every waking moment and every word bringing people and glory to God in obvious ways, but I’m pretty confident in saying I’ve never scared anyone away from Him.

I’m leaving comments open as long as everyone can play nice. No name calling. If you must name call tell me what color your bedsheets are instead.

Comments

  1. I”m LDS. I hate people who talk in circles which is what I get when people confront me like “man”
    You’re awesome. You write about life. You make it funny. Sex is part of life. Getting naked in front of hot docs is life. I admire you for putting it all out there. Cuz we’ve all been there, even if we don’t have the guts to talk about it.
    Thanks.

  2. oh man …i am glad i am not the only person who gets this kind of contact.

    just like jolene said above me, it is typical anti-mormon behavior to talk in circles, to ask questions and not wait for the answers.

    i usually say, “do you really want to know or are you just checking to see if i know?”

    you did a great job? why are people so mean when it comes to religion?

    he doesn’t give a rat’s a about your salvation and if he really did represent my Jesus he would have been a lot nice to my friend.

    i hope he sits on a tack.

    …errr is that name calling?

    …errrr, my winter sheets are tan, my summer sheets are yellow.

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  3. I can’t believe how long you tolerated that!

    My bed sheets have snowflakes on them!!!!

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  4. I know we already spoke about this, but just know that you are loved by SO MANY of us. I know it’s hard, but try to put out of your mind what this jerk had to say. Big, BIG hugs to you. xoxoxo

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  5. I’m a devout heathen. And, as long as you don’t try and tell me my way of doing things is wrong, I don’t give one hoot what you practice – I love you just the way you are.

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  6. I’ve been reading your blog for quite a while now. I am also a Christian (non-denominational), and I have never read anything remotely offensive on your blog.

    This guy must be reading a different blog.

    On top of that, you don’t change someone’s mind about their religious beliefs by criticizing them.

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  7. I find that your blog is inspiring. I suffer from fertility problems and PCOS also. Your blog lets me know that I am not alone in the sadness and humiliation of it all.

    You give true insights into the human condition.

    By the way, God created sex, and marriage, and babies. There is nothing that you have discussed that I have found to be sinful.

    There are so many “Christians” out there who give most of us a bad reputation. We are to speak the truth in love and not be judgemental or condemn others for their beliefs. Only God can judge.

    This man seems a bit confused about that. Christians are to be accountable to other Christians in their church family, but we are not to judge those outside the church. That is God’s responsibility.

    I know that you are a good, kind, person and your relationship with God is between you and Him.

    My job, as a Christian, is to live a life that glorifies Him so that others will notice and inquire about my faith. Only God can bring people to Himself.

    You are a beautiful person and God loves you. That is all I need to know. =o)

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  8. I am not LDS, I’m a plain jane Christ follower. I just have to say that your posts encourage and uplift all those who read them, and your being so transparent is a true representation of what God desires of our lives and that is to love your neighbor as yourself and to Love God with all your heart. Your love for others and for God is very apparent in how much you share with all those around you. You have encouraged me so many times and filled me with joy with that great gift of Gab that God has bestowed upon you!

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  9. Oops forgot to tell you about my sheets… pale green with interesting brown shapes along with an unpleasant smell due to my beautiful 2lb teacup chihuahua climbing in to bed with us ( I gotta take care of that)

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  10. I wish everyone would accept the missionaries over so they could learn what LDS really believe instead telling us what what they think we believe.
    And for the man – he’s doing the best with what he’s got. Maybe someday he’ll be ready for more.

  11. Elisabeth says:

    Ok, I’ve never even posted before ever and I’m not even Mormon (I grew up in Columbus, Indiana and now I live in Salt Lake City, so we do have commonalities with locations and culture).

    But this just…enrages me! I think everybody has a story like this with ignorant people who are not willing to think outside the box and accept LDS ppl. That guy was NOT a good representative of what he considers his religion. UGH. And he has no idea what being LDS is about, obviously! Jesus is different? WHATEVER! Personally I think God is God. People have different names for him but he’s still GOD, right?

    I recently visited the Draper temple for the first time because they hadn’t dedicated it yet and I wanted to go inside…and I definitely felt the Lord there! (Or Heavenly Father as you all like to say :-)). It was a blessing to go, and a wonderful experience. I’m going to another temple here this summer as well, and bringing my boyfriend this time around. So peaceful and beautiful!

    But back to the Man. Trust me, we’ve all had horrible experiences with these types of people. I was reading a thread about the Duggars on television without pity, which is that family with 18 kids on tlc, and somebody was saying how the Duggar’s oldest son’s wedding was a lot like LDS weddings. They then “explained” that LDS weddings are all about inviting as many people as possible to get as many presents as possible. I just sat there like…”WHA??” I mean, my friends who are LDS were all married in the TEMPLE and hardly anyone was there for their wedding and sealing so obviously this person didn’t have a clue! Yet this person claimed “the majority of LDS weddings are huge” and that they’d gone to one in a “mormon church.” I had to laugh at this because if they meant having one in the temple, they obviously made it up (I really don’t think some weirdo like that who isn’t even LDS is going to get a recommend! DOH!). And then everybody on the thread was like “oh really? oh those crazy mormons.” I HATE that! Why do they think we’re weird? (I say “we” because I’ve now lived here for 6 years and I totally self identify with the customs of SLC at this point!) Yeah, LDS people are my friends and some are even like family at this point, and all of them are GOOD people.

    So I agree with you…we are children of God and we’re going to get to heaven. Please don’t let this weirdo get under your skin! I’m sure he’ll face these types of things when he is judged, like, “where you a smarty pants to people who are a different denomination than you are?” Hee!

    And how in the world are your posts non-biblical? Oh my HECK! I’ve seen nothing immodest in your posts, I think they are quite touching, actually.

    Anyway, I’ll stick up for ya, girl!!! Darn the man! Ok, I’m off my (LDS) soapbox now. :-)

  12. Several years ago, I had a conversation with my then Pastor that summed up my take on current religion perfecty. He made the point that in the current world, most people church shop…they aren’t looking at the denomination so much as the “church” that makes them most comfortable. My mom church shopped as I grew up, and I’ve been exposed to numerous religions. LDS didn’t bother me…I actually enjoyed that church while we went. Other churches/religions I had serious issues with. I do not believe there is only one path (religion) that will get you to heaven…I believe that doing your best to follow his teachings and be a good person will do that. Religion is just he mechanism to make sure you are following the guidelines.

    I’m not sure I could have continued that conversation as long as you did. I have very little tolerance for people who sit in judgement of other people’s choices.

    And just for the record, I find it amusing that I read a lot of LDS members on the net…has blogging become part of the outreach program? (I am totally just kidding. I think it’s more a matter of you all being more open to sharing your religion)

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  13. So many crazy Christians… I am a non-denominational Christian as well, and if there is one thing that turns me off more than anything about “my own kind” is the seemingly unending desire we have to try to win souls for Christ. Goodness gracious, He is able to do anything. He doesn’t need us to win anyone. He never even told us to do that. His commission is simple, go into all the world and preach the Gospel. Not convert people, not judge people, not threaten people. Preach the Gospel. And in that He also gave us the commandment of loving your neighbor as yourself. Not judging your neighbor, not converting your neighbor, none of that.

    I think your response was awesome and that you handled it very well. God bless you.

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  14. Wow my bedsheets are sooo pink!!!! Well done Mrs you handled the situation very well and much better than a lot of people would’ve.

  15. I won’t name-call, despite my desire to do so.

    However, I will say that I wish more people would take your view on religion. I don’t care who/what you worship (if you do at all) as long as your faith A) creates good in your life B) helps you do good things and C) doesn’t interfere with MY faith or lack thereof.

  16. wow. i applaud your patience to even give him an audience for as long as you did.

    this is a precise example of what disillusioned me the most about much of organized religion years ago. what could he have possibly gained by going that far to try to bait you into saying you were going to hell?

    what a glaring specimen of how to live unhappily.

    you handled him with class.

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  17. My sheets are purple. But I like you.
    I don’t know if this is something that only happens in Indiana, but I’m sure it isn’t. People like him are what makes me reluctant to admit I’m even a Christian. People like him, spreading irrational intolerance, are what make me regret always going to Christian schools. I think the major problem with churches is that the majority of the members think their way is the only way, and instead of kindly and respectfully trying to convince people that their opinion is correct, they insult and demean the other person’s chosen religion, making themselves look like an idiot in the process.
    Anyway, I like you. Good work.

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  18. I have the undeniable urge to now punch someone in the face.

    I have respect for people’s opinions, but sometimes they are SO undeniably rude that it irritates the crap out of me.

  19. but good job keeping you’re cool and remaining a loyal daughter of the Lord in your conversation. very repectable! I don’t know if I could have! :)

  20. wow. no wonder your eyes got big last night when we told you matt was a pastor. sheesh. i’m sorry….well…one more lesson learned and experience checked off the list. (the experience being phone conversation with mormon-hater)

    love the blog!

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