I do know this person in real life, however all identifying references have been removed. (If you’d like to out yourself man, be my guest but I’m going to respect your privacy as not all the internet is as forgiving as others.) I share this with you because I’ve found that a lot of people put pressure on other people to find God, once they finally do they are told they found the wrong God because it’s not their God. This chat occurred last night after a tweet about my disdain for BYU.
Man:
Man from MyBlog here, are you there?
Casey:
yup
Man:
wanna here my thoughts? are should i leave you be?
Casey:
about me being a bad person? I’m totally interested.
Man:
oh, so you already know? : )that helps
Casey:
are you kidding me?
Man:
well, i am right now
Casey:
a lot gets lost in translation in 140 characters or less.
Man:
but i stopped following you because i think you use cheapness to garner attention
Casey:
that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
Man:
indeed it is
and i read enuf on your blog to wonder why you would call yourself LDS
you might guess i’m totally against LDS…but
Casey:
are you sure you’re reading the right blog?
Man:
if you are gonna say that’s what you believe it ought to show. yeah, the one i read had to do with gays
Casey:
I love all people.
Man:
it was a while back, i even made a comment. i love all people too
Casey:
the prop 8 post?
Man:
probably but wait…you use sex a lot in your posts to excite
Casey:
I really don’t…
Man:
that’s not an approved Biblical concept there
Casey:
I’m not even sure I’ve used the word sex in any post of mine.
Man:
you probably haven’t, but c’mon
Casey:
It is and approved biblical concept that I make out with my husband.
Did your wife ever experience infertility?
Or anyone close to you?
Man:
i even remember when we met at [that thing we met at], and i saw you twittering in the big room…
hang on – short phone call, almost done if you’re still there
Casey:
I’m sorry that you think I’m cheap. Or that I gave you the wrong impression, but who I am online is who I am in real life. Whether you like it or not, nobody’s opinion of me will ever change who I am unless it’s my opinion or God’s.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish.
No one forces you to read my blog or my tweets.
Man:
it would be a lot easier to have a conversation about this, but i don’t think that’s what you’d wanna do. mostly i’d just like to encourage you to take a serious look at God’s word and compare that to how you think…
i’m not here to bash you, but you words are not in line with Biblical teaching…
you can get mad at me if you want
but you need to hear that
Casey:
I’m not mad, I just don’t argue about God, what works for me doesn’t work for you and vice versa and that’s fine.
Man:
for YOUR good, not mine
Casey:
And that’s fine.
Man:
not really fine, either one, or both of us is wrong
Casey:
What does it matter if we are both happy with our lives?
Man:
cuz happy don’t get you to Heaven, you might be happy and go to heaven…but i sure wouldn’t trade happy here for Hell
and before you get mad, i’m not saying you are going to hell…i don’t have any way to know
Casey:
I’m not going to hell, neither are you…
Man:
ok, but why do you think you are not? do you wanna try a short skype call?
Casey:
I don’t understand why it’s so important to you?
If you don’t like the LDS religion wouldn’t you rather me be out there perpetuating your negative image of my chosen faith?
Man:
do you remember that i run the pro-life music fest?
Casey:
I do remember that, a worthy cause.
Man:
no, i want you to go to Heaven
Casey:
I am going to heaven.
Man:
LDS won’t get you there
Casey:
It will get me there, and my family will be there too.
Man:
well, then it seems to me that you don’t believe the Bible and you are more than free to not believe, it just comes with consequences
Casey:
I do believe…is this based soley on the prop 8 post?
Man:
no, not at all
Casey:
I mean the last post I did was about my difficulties in trying to have a baby, the one before that was about feeding hungry children. I had one about how much I love my husband and my child.
Man:
so, good cancels bad? no sin if you do enuf good?
Casey:
I just don’t get what I write about that is so offensive to you?
Man:
that’s noy Biblical
Casey:
I don’t get where my glaring sins come through on my blog, yes I have them, but who are you to judge? I leave the Judging up to Jesus. As it should be. Why are you so worried about my salvation anyway? I’ve got it figured out for me.
Man:
as do i, but the Bible clearly teaches that we should confront those who say they believe but aren’t walking as they should
Casey:
I love my life.
Man:
that’s not judging
Casey:
Ah ha…well. my blog is 1/16th of my actual ife.
Man:
God is the only one who can judge, i have no power
Casey:
if you only see 1/16th of my actual life (if even that) I’m pretty sure I’m good.
Man:
no one is good, certainly not me
Casey:
me nither, but I do my best from sun up to sundown.
Man:
that’s the problem, we are all headed to Hell, unless…
Casey:
I slip sometimes.
Man:
unless we find the way that leads to Heaven
Casey:
That’s the difference, we are not all headed to hell.
Man:
and that’s only thru Christ
Casey:
we are headed to different degrees of heaven. I can send you some missionaries to explain it to you…
Man:
we are all born headed for Hell, you don’t agree?
Casey:
nope. where’s the hope in that?
Man:
you don’t seem to know much about the Bible the hope is only in Christ
Casey:
you don’t seem to know much about my faith.
Man:
that’s the point!
Casey:
so why not let me worship as I please?
Man:
you can, i care enuf to converse tho, if you want me to leave, i will
Casey:
I’m not changing my faith on the opinion of anyone.
Man:
didn’t expect you would…but i did hope to challenge your thoughts and to do so in love
Casey:
what religion do you consider yourself?
Man:
Christian
Casey:
what denomination?
Man:
not a denomination
Casey:
OH. well
Man:
there aren’t any in the Bible it’s all about Christ
Casey:
the name of my church is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
He’s in the name, yo.
Man:
denominations are like clubs to people these days
Casey:
well, I like my “club”
Man:
yeah, i know, i was one when i was akid
Casey:
LDS? or in a club
Man:
but Christ is not at the center of LDS
Casey:
he totally is.
Man:
and that’s easy to research
Casey:
if you only look for what you want to look for.
Man:
not the Christ of the Bible…they’ve made a different one – similar but different
Casey:
my husband keeps telling me this is never going to end.
Man:
probably right
Casey:
You are a child of God, I am a child of God, Jesus loves you, Jesus loves me, please respect me because I respect you.
Man:
well, that certainly takes the “i’m a sinner and need salvation” part out of it all
Casey:
That’s not what I said…
Man:
that’s usually what people wanna leave out and that’s the pivot point
Casey
Man, goodnight.
Man:
well, i haven’t been mean or nasty
Casey:
I haven’t said you have been.
Man:
so i hope that speaks to you
Casey:
I hope I haven’t been either.
Man:
and, i did just what you said, i stopped following you
Casey:
I appreciate your concern in sharing your opinion.
Man:
that’s what started this
Casey:
People unfollow me everyday.
Man:
but i do wish you would want to talk about all this
Casey
People send me nasty letters when they find out my choice of religion.
Man:
that’s not why i left
Casey:
They like me up until they find out why I’m “one of them” I like being “one of them”
Man:
it’s because you use the weakness of human nature to puff you up and that’s cheap
Casey:
the weakness of human nature?
Man:
just as i said, our sinful nature
Casey:
that BYU stinks?
Man:
your posts appeal to our sinful nature a lot, that’s my point
Casey:
There’s a lot of other bloggers who need a lot more help than me.
Wha?
Man:
why would someone wanting to please God do that? yes there are, but i only know you
Casey:
allow me to introduce you to a few…
Man:
you do remember me from [that place we met], right?
Casey:
I do remember you
Man:
you sat at my table in the big room
Casey:
yes. and we sat along the wall and talked about your concerts
Man:
and then at the meeting in the evening, yeah, so, i met you, maybe for a reason
Casey:
or maybe I met you for a reason.
Man:
maybe
Casey:
I want to spend friday evening with my husband, Man.
Man:
but i can tell you that i have experienced Christ in a way that gives me the strength to say you can put a bullet in my head, I will never deny Him
Casey:
Same here, goodnight Man.
Man:
i honestly doubt it…. have agreat eve
Now, I may not spend every waking moment and every word bringing people and glory to God in obvious ways, but I’m pretty confident in saying I’ve never scared anyone away from Him.
I’m leaving comments open as long as everyone can play nice. No name calling. If you must name call tell me what color your bedsheets are instead.
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By Sarah on 03.14.09 5:56 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @sarrup
Wow.
I’m sorry that you had to deal with this, but from reading it, I feel like you did a remarkable job explaining your faith to someone who doesn’t quite understand Mormonism.
As a non-denominational Christian with a lot of Mormon friends, I have realized that it really comes down to the idea that we are to love one another as Jesus loved us. We can’t love without Jesus because He was the first love, will be the last love and is the only real love.
There are a lot of things about Mormonism that I don’t quite understand, but that gives me no right to say you’re “not walking as you should.” We aren’t the judges, you have it right, the LORD is the one and only judge.
(Sorry if this comment is rambly, I’ve got a pain med in me but I wanted to reach out in a bit of support.)
BTW – my bedsheets are cream with weird kinda-sorta stripes in them.
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By pgoodness on 03.14.09 6:03 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @pgoodness
I will never understand why, in MY experiences, the people who claim to follow God’s word/teachings/etc, are THE most judgmental about belief and religion.
I honestly don’t care what religion (or club, hehe) people belong to – it’s none of my business. If a person is loving and happy and kind; a person lives their life the best way they can, then that’s all that matters to me.
Casey, I admire your devotion and sharing and honesty about your religion. I have learned about LDS because of you and appreciate your faith. Beyond that, if I didn’t like it, I just wouldn’t visit.
The people around me – in real life and those who live in my computer – have amazingly varied beliefs. To me, it makes it that much more interesting. I certainly would never surround myself with people who believe exactly the same as me – where’s the fun in that?
By Lisa in TX on 03.14.09 6:05 pm | Permalink
I’ve had lots of conversations with people about my life, faith, and being LDS. Some listen and thank me for taking the time to explain, and some don’t. I’m ok with not having control over their reactions. God gave each of us the right to choose our own way. I hope I’m a good example of Christ-like love, and that’s enough for me.
By Melanie on 03.14.09 6:05 pm | Permalink
I think you handled that very well, Casey. I am sorry you had to, though. I don’t know how someone can go through life thinking we are all destined for Hell.. that is simply not the way I was raised, I suppose.
As an aside, i see a link top right for wedding rings. I am in fact shopping for wedding rings. If i click that and buy something, do they kick part of it back to you? I’m not sure how that works…
By Lindy on 03.14.09 6:06 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @Lindy_
One of the reasons there is so much wrong w/ the world is that we are always trying to convince someone else that they are wrong. Just let people be.
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By Megan@SortaCrunchy on 03.14.09 6:32 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @sortacrunchy
Well then.
Casey, I think you are a far better woman/person/Christian/whatever for walking through that converation with him. I think you were more than gracious and not at all nasty. What on earth causes people to think they are going to convince a person to completely turn their backs on the faith they choose to believe and practice in a chat conversation?!
Just. Wow. Shaking my head a little bit over all of this.
And I’m sorry people write you hate letters over your faith.
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By ender on 03.14.09 6:44 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @enderFP
good grief. you have FAR more patience than i do – i couldn’t even read the whole thing because i have such a hard time with either/or, black/white thinking. (unless i’m coding something, but that’s quite different – computers don’t understand nuance and situation very well!)
i keep going back and reading a little bit more at a time and i do marvel at your patience … as for the “one of them” kind of stuff- i never have understood that whether it was religion or skin colour or something else. i admire you because you are who you are – beliefs, religion, struggles, the whole package.
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By Holly on 03.14.09 7:00 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @pixelpushr
I grew up in a religion (not LDS) that was also controversial to those not involved. In school other kids were constantly informing me that I was either going to hell or going to be left behind to burn in the second coming. These were eight year olds! As a result I have no patience for this kind of arrogant, prying, presumptuous, unwelcome, impertinent line of questioning whether its directed at me or anyone else. It makes me want to shake people. Whew…thanks for letting me vent.
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By Lauryn on 03.14.09 7:01 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @growthelove
DUDE.
Seriously?
Wow. Love the way you handled that conversation. People like that drive me bonkers!
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By Adrienne on 03.14.09 7:06 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @Adriennevh
Not only do I want to name call, but I want to out his name as well.
Send him my way, tell him this Agnostic needs “saving”, however, I won’t be half as nice as you and I will tell him who wrote “his” bible (because it sounds nothing like the one I have read)and where he can put it.
UGH!
btw my sheets are pink.
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By Danielle on 03.14.09 7:06 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @captainporkchop
My bedsheets are white.
My bedsheets are white.
My bedsheets are white.
He was egging you on for fun. You are so patient.
In my opinion, people who openly judge others and hide behind the Bible to do it are cowards and hurt more people than they’d like to believe they help. The overwhelming hypocrisy of people like this who act in this way is precisely why I no longer believe in “organized” religion.
But I will say that in my experience, the LDSers that I know are some of the kindest most compassionate people I know. (And also a hell of a lot of fun!)
Was that “name calling”? I hope not.
My bedsheets are white, by the way.
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By Backpacking Dad on 03.14.09 7:20 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @BackpackingDad
THEY’RE GREEN!!!!!
They’re the most holier-than-thou green I’ve ever seen. They are so certainthat they know what Jesus looks like that they are sad that the other sheets are disrespectful of all the other sheets. And can’t take hints worth a good dosh darn.
Jesus wants all the sheets for a sun-BEAM.
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By Backpacking Dad on 03.14.09 7:21 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @BackpackingDad
That was the most nonsensical comment I’ve ever written. It was a soldering job of two comments and it doesn’t even make sense any more.
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By Barb @ getupandplay on 03.14.09 7:34 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @getupandplay
Talk about a communication disconnect! Wow. Even for being on different theological sides of the fence (we are all bound for hell vs. there actually is no hell) completely, there was still not a lot of comprehension going on there.
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By Ms. Changes Pants While Driving on 03.14.09 7:40 pm | Permalink
maybe at the end of this conversation you both saw eye to eye on your individual beliefs. i coulnd’t finish it. he took everything you said and turned it around or ignored it and brought up another point that made no sense.
i’m not religious. but this post really got me frustrated for you.
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By Ms. Changes Pants While Driving on 03.14.09 7:44 pm | Permalink
my sheets are cream. my sheets are cream. my sheets are cream. i have three different sets that are three different kinds of cream. my sheets are brown. my sheets are teal.
i just finished reading the conversation. and i’m not calling anyone names.
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By Shannon on 03.14.09 7:44 pm | Permalink
WOW! Too bad someone feels like they need to be that way.
My sheets are BLUE! LOL!
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By Jill on 03.14.09 7:49 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @delightfulquirk
I think you are an amazing person. It doesn’t matter what you believe in, so long as it makes you happy. I believe in the Craft and call myself Witch. It doesn’t matter if people don’t understand, all that matters is that you go through life doing the best you can on that given day. I think you are a beautiful person inside and out (from the 1/16th of your life that I’ve seen of course). Be who you are.
(My sheets are blue polar fleece)
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By Lisa on 03.14.09 8:03 pm | Permalink
You handled yourself well, very non-judging & loving. You should feel proud.
My sheets are red & a super high thread count that I love
By Untypically Jia on 03.14.09 8:05 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @untypicallyjia
Wow. Totally been in that position. It’s frustrating as heck.
I agree with you chica. Respect others beliefs. Love one another.
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By the planet of janet on 03.14.09 8:09 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @planetofjanet
i’m a bed linen snob. and i don’t like it when people tell me that My choice of sheets isn’t adequate for THEM.
seeing as they’re not the ones who have to sleep on them.
your patience is admirable. i would not have engaged this guy for so long.
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By Erika on 03.14.09 8:17 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @erikareyes
WOW! You are amazingly more patient than I am! I was getting your tweets last night wondering what was going on. I’m glad I know. I wish you wouldn’t have had to go through that, but you did so extremely well.
And for the 1/16 of your life that I know about, I think you’re an amazing, stand up, christian example. So thanks for that!
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By Sherry on 03.14.09 8:17 pm | Permalink
My favorite line was when you asked him if we wanted the missionaries to come over. Excellent.
I have no need for name calling, but I do accept the invitation to tell you about my bedsheets. They are dark blue and silky. They are not particularly fancy or expensive, but they FEEL fancy and expensive. The package described them as “lingerie for your bed,” and it’s true.
Sherrys last blog post..Pi Day
By amy @ milk breath and margaritas on 03.14.09 8:23 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @amy2boys
Taupe.
Boring, I know.
(This whole thing seems super strange to me. What was his deal?)
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By mommymae on 03.14.09 8:41 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @iammommymae
i just got some new sheets at target. they are light green with light blue, marine, white and moss stripes.
you handled the conversation with much more grace than i would have.
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By kat on 03.14.09 8:41 pm | Permalink
I wish I knew what lead up to you “chatting”. That seemed rather strange to me also.
I sure wish people understood that the LDS believe that there is only ONE Jesus Christ and we didn’t “make” ours different from anyone else’s. He is one and the same.
I am also glad to know that I was not put here on this earth so “save” mankind. God gave that job to his son Jesus Christ. What an under taking he has accepted.
It’s hard enough working daily to make sure I do what’s necessary for myself to be worthy to be saved by him.
By Marilyn on 03.14.09 8:46 pm | Permalink
Wow. That’s pretty messed up. It’s ppl like that who give Christians like me a bad name. You’ve never one offended me, Casey. You just keep doing what you do.
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By Mel on 03.14.09 8:58 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @melissalistens
Ugh. This is why people hate “Christians.” Seriously. How embarrassing for those of us who ARE Christian.
I am personally a Christian…and I know nothing about LDS. But I don’t see whats wrong with it if we’re all praising the same God the way we’re supposed to do it!
And I’ve never found anything offensive on your blog at ALL.
No one is perfect. That man needs to pull something out of his butt and grow up!
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By Katherine R. Lange-Willson on 03.14.09 9:04 pm | Permalink
Wow. Seriously – that’s all I can think… Wow. You lasted FAR longer in that chat that I would have.
I’m an “out” athiest, yet I have great respect for the people around me whose faith not only sustains them, but makes them into amazing people, like the kind YOU come across as, Casey, from the 1/16th of your life that the rest of us sees.
I have more respect for my LDS friends who are LIVING what they believe, than I do for my fundamentalist aquaintances who claim to believe one way, but act a whole different other way.
You GO, girl, you GO!
PS – and I’m still using my blue plaid flannel sheets – I can’t bring myself to switch to the spring ones yet.
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By Skye on 03.14.09 9:19 pm | Permalink
You.Are.Fantastic.
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By Casey on 03.14.09 9:25 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @cagequeen
As a non-denominational Christian myself, please let me be the first (or fiftieth) to confirm that this anonymous man does NOT speak for or represent our “club.” Two of my very closest friends in the entire world are LDS, and despite not being a member of their “club” I cherish them and am proud to witness their love for God.
I, for one, will be praying for this man to be less judgemental and leave that job to God.
Last I checked, the bible said the best way to convert people to loving God is by living a good, clean life and living by setting a good example. Harassing people via internet is manipulative and I liken it to trying to take someone hostage emotionally.
The lamest part of this entire thing, is that he was not even able to articulate or communicate what his actual grievance is. Pretty sad.
By Roxy206 on 03.14.09 9:44 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @Kimmy6313
I wanted to delurk on your blog, considering I mentioned on Twitter that I read you.
I admire the patience you showed in this “conversation”. You held out & stuck to your guns. I don’t think I would have bothered with this person at all, but you were honestly trying to understand where he came from.
My sheets are a light yellow.
By Reese on 03.14.09 9:55 pm | Permalink
Seems to me that the only part of the bible he’s particularly concerned with is the part where we point out those that are “stumbling”.
HA.
I’m glad your denomination works for you! That’s the original idea of religions, to lead people to Christ within the cultural ideas they are already used to and comfortable.
OF COURSE ALL RELIGIONS DON’T WORK FOR ALL PEOPLE! I don’t think they should.
That being said, I’m a former SDA now non-denominational Christian.
And the point IS loving others. Not telling them they are crappy Christians.
His concern shouldn’t be with how “Christiany” YOU are, but with others that haven’t even MET Christ yet.
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By Frances Corkill on 03.14.09 9:58 pm | Permalink
Nice job Casey!! You have the right to your opinion and I don’t understand why people don’t let you have that!! You are who you are and more power to you for that!
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By Amy on 03.14.09 10:01 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @prettybabies
Casey, you’re a beautiful young woman, and religion is obviously important to you. There are men out there who will use whatever means they have to, in order to get your attention. Some men whistle. Some grab rear ends. This one chats up women about their faith on the ‘net under the guise of “saving” them. I doubt his motives are so pure. I think he wants the attention of a beautiful young woman.
Don’t give him your attention.
You’re cool with where you are, your husband is cool with where you are, and who is this yahoo to come in and try to upset your apple cart?
Your apples are great. Give him a quarter and tell him to call someone who cares.
As for being cheap, you are anything but!! My goodness, you have a designer laptop that matches your designer dress!
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By Joanna on 03.14.09 10:09 pm | Permalink
Wow.
My bedsheets are cream with red snowflakes.
Joannas last blog post..Dark chocolate no bake cookies
By Overflowing Brain on 03.14.09 10:49 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @overflowinbrain
It’s funny, my best friend in high school was LDS, and to this day, when we discuss religion, NO ONE is more reasonable. I’m on a personal religions quest, but was raised Catholic, my husband is Jewish and our children most likely will be as well.
When I told her that we were going to raise them as Jews, I expected a harsh reaction. And instead she told me that she greatly admired Judaism and knew that it was a great path towards heaven.
Which is amazing, because my own sister (non-denominational Christian) told me that my husband and our children and subsequently me for doing this to my (HYPOTHETICAL) children are all going to hell. For, you know, being the same religion Jesus was. I know. What a bunch of hell-bound heathens we are.
My sheets are in the wash.
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By Overflowing Brain on 03.14.09 10:51 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @overflowinbrain
That should be personal religiouS quest.
But it’s really just code for, hasn’t-found-a-religion-she-feels-comfortable-in-yet.
Overflowing Brains last blog post..Pain and Suffering
By ourcrookedtree on 03.14.09 10:53 pm | Permalink
I am impressed. I would have never lasted that long or been so civil. People mock what they do not understand.
BTW. My sheets are white. Makes me feel like I am at a hotel on vacation on top of the feather top!
By Kris on 03.14.09 10:57 pm | Permalink
WOW! My sheets are blue!
You are one patient girl. I had to have a similar conversation awhile back and I wasn’t nearly this patient! I could learn a thing or two from you for sure.
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By Ali on 03.14.09 11:02 pm | Permalink
Hey Casey!
I don’t think I’ve commented before. I’m from Utah, non-mormon, that now lives in Texas. My sister converted to mormonism many moons ago, totally shook up the family. Anyway, just a history of myself.
I think that what this guy was getting at is from the group of Christians out there that thinks Mormonism is a cult and they are not “saved”. I have met a lot of people here in Texas that have said that about my sister. How it just breaks their heart that my sister doesn’t understand she is going to hell.
You handled the situation well. I totally agree with you. It is not up to us who goes where, so why should we judge? BUT, there is a huge lot of people that believe that they should judge. Christians being a huge part of them, no matter the religion and it is unfortunate.
By Angela on 03.14.09 11:11 pm | Permalink
Ok seriously my sheets are white or that old faded kinda dingy white. But I can’t stand when people argue what “you” believe and refuse to stop. I’m LDS, whatever, but in “sharing” the gospel I think the biggest thing is living it and being respectful. You handled that conversation with grace. Great job!
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By White Hot Magik on 03.14.09 11:26 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @bugladynora
You know if someone is upset or offended by what you say and they want to unfollow you fine. I don’t see how shaming people really helps. I might say I disagree with you and wouldn’t do that or don’t believe the same way as you. (Which quite frankly I have probably thought about everyone one I know or read at some point and time.) So what to do? Crawl in a whole and ignore the whole world? Or maybe just maybe learn from each other, help each other, love each other, teach each other through example. I know it sounds trite and has been made into a joke but really What would Jesus do? Or better yet, what did Jesus do?
For the record your honesty and humanity are the reasons I read your blog in the first place not because you are a perfect robot. I am here despite the fact that you didn’t love NM as much as I do. ; )
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By Bridget on 03.14.09 11:47 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @iveyleaguemama
This subject seems to be coming up a lot for me lately. This is kind of lengthy, but it’s a snippet from a recent email I wrote to a friend:
If God is as big and wise and all-knowing as I think he is, then he knows better than do I about how to reach each of his children. Jesus is the way that God has shared himself with me. But it’s not the same way he’s shared himself with someone who is Jewish or Islamic. Who am I to say that God can’t express himself differently to different people in different cultures? God is bigger and smarter than me, and I’m going to let him be the judge. It’s not my job to try to convert people of other religions to Christianity. My focus is on maintaining a relationship with God and living my life in a way that makes him happy. My hands are pretty full with that, actually. I’m not even very good at it most of the time.
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By Chelsey on 03.15.09 12:24 am | Permalink
im really glad i read that, you are very nice to him..much nicer than i would have been
My sheets are black…ooohhh mysterious!!!
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By Ani on 03.15.09 12:57 am | Permalink
Twitter: @annisnelson
Thank you so much for writing this down. I actually had a disagreement with some of the older ladies in my women’s bible study about this kind of denominationalism. It saddens me.
It tears people apart, and Christians apart when we should be coming together out of mutual love for God and Christ. It makes me really sad that Satan can work at people like that to divide them on semantics and interpretation. I mean…yeah. We have very similar views on this, and I think it was a total God thing I got to read this.
Thank you for allowing me to be blessed by your having to deal with that adversity by posting.
By Bree on 03.15.09 1:15 am | Permalink
Twitter: @bwildered07
This is what bothers me about being a “Christian”. Having lived through my own experience with “christians” they are some of the most judgemental people in the world.
I personally believe that God come to all of use differently. Through different religions, people, whatever. I would never presume to tell someone that how they have met God is the wrong way or that they haven’t truly met God. It’s not my place. And I certainly wouldn’t want them judging me that way.
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By Bree on 03.15.09 1:16 am | Permalink
Twitter: @bwildered07
Oh and my sheets are cream flannel. I’m very sexy.
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By amber on 03.15.09 1:53 am | Permalink
OMG.
white. my bed sheets are white.
thank you for this, i absolutely love your honesty + how freaking BRAVE you are.
By Lynn (Walking With Scissors) on 03.15.09 2:10 am | Permalink
Twitter: @wwscissors
Sage! And cream!!! Take that, man.
I echo the sentiments of everyone else. You are far more patient than I. I would have given “man” the old heave-ho long before you did.
The thing that really gets me is that there are so many Christians out there who feel it is their duty to judge others. Call me crazy, but I’m pretty sure it says in the Bible to leave all of that up to Jesus.
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By heather... on 03.15.09 3:01 am | Permalink
Twitter: @mamaspohr
I don’t really have a lot of nice things to say. Scratch that. I have nothing nice to say.
I love you and stuff (well, look at that, I had ONE nice thing to say).
PURPLE NURPLE.
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By Olivia Singleton on 03.15.09 8:16 am | Permalink
Twitter: @Olivia_ocd
Uhh… I’m bugged. My sheets are mint green.
I find religion to be intensely personal even within the LDS faith. At least for me, religion is very much so a one on one relationship with God. That relationship is unique only to you. No one should be able to sit back and say that you aren’t following God because that isn’t their place to decide.
I hope that doesn’t qualify as name calling! If it does… meh.
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By Angie on 03.15.09 8:47 am | Permalink
I do not agree with the teachings of LDS, nor do you believe in the teachings of the Baptist denomination (I am assuming here, but am pretty sure I am spot on), but you know what? I love you and I don’t judge you. Religious freedom is one of the many things that makes this country great. No matter what interpetation you get from the Bible, I have never read any part of it that tells us to judge, or hate, or tell people that they are foolish. It does say to love thy neighbor as thyself (even if they’re aetheist). If someone is hatelful or judgemental or spiteful towards me it tells me a lot about how they feel about themselves. And that makes me sad for them, but not sad for me. Love you! Hugs!
By Avitable on 03.15.09 9:12 am | Permalink
Twitter: @Avitable
I’ve already told you what I think about this white-sheeted Egyptian cotton son of brown fleece. I’d like to take his paisley 1000-count sheets and sheet them up his sheeting sheet. What a mothersheeter.
Oh, I think it got away from me there.
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By Antonette on 03.15.09 10:18 am | Permalink
“as do i, but the Bible clearly teaches that we should confront those who say they believe but aren’t walking as they should”
Jesus said “Let he who is WITHOUT sin cast the first stone.”
“there aren’t any in the Bible it’s all about Christ” (regarding denominations)
Um hello Dude…Jesus was JEWISH. Temple, circumcision, yadda yadda. Might want to read your Bible again.
My sheets are green.
And Casey’s cool.
Nobody’s born for hell.
geesh.
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By El on 03.15.09 10:46 am | Permalink
That Post seemed kind of pointless? I understand your choice to follow a certain religion, isn’t a dialogue about it even if it’s not the best conversation still a way to find out about yourself and people in general? There is always an opportunity to learn from everyone and what they have to say. Even if you don’t want to hear it. Griping about it won’t get you anywhere.
By KiwiJess on 03.15.09 11:26 am | Permalink
I am not only a non-Mormon, but a person who doesn’t believe or belong to an organized religion. I grew up in Salt Lake City and most of my friends and much of my family are Mormon. Since moving out East, I’ve encountered so many that judge my friends and Mormonism in general (among so much more). And what I’ve never, ever understood is the hypocrisy of other faiths judging each other. Just tell me how that is Christ-like? And what exactly did he think that was going to happen from this conversation? That you would denounce your faith? Some people just really make me laugh…
By Darla on 03.15.09 11:29 am | Permalink
Twitter: @darlaf
Good grief.
Blue.
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By Jen on 03.15.09 2:34 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @jenbshaw
I struggle with “faith” issues a lot, I don’t really know what I believe in and what I don’t. Most of the time I consider myself agnostic. That being said I really enjoy your LDS posts because I like to learn about other people’s faith from people like you who manage to “teach” without “preaching”. My hope is that someday I can be as confident and secure in my beliefs as you are in yours.
You seriously rock in the patience category!
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By Annie on 03.15.09 3:00 pm | Permalink
I am Catholic. My mother in law is a former Catholic, and now considers herself ‘born again Christian’ – I have had conversations absolutely similar to this with her and they make me so sad.
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By Brie on 03.15.09 3:52 pm | Permalink
My sheets are brown. But I am going to put the blue ones on today.
Nice way to handle the “man”
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By kathy on 03.15.09 6:01 pm | Permalink
In this world were not all going to agree about things. We can only agree to disagree.
Great job keeping your cool.
BTW my bedsheets are red
By disneyland_grandma on 03.15.09 7:52 pm | Permalink
“Man” oh-so ironically said it correctly when he said “that’s the point!”

My sheets are…
By Alli on 03.15.09 8:46 pm | Permalink
Casey, I think you were really patient and respectful. But I also think he was pretty respectful. I don’t think twitter lends itself to really coherent discussions about faith, obviously. But it sounded like both of you were calmly trying to present your position, and you disagreed. Even if you walk away disagreeing, even if you walk away really annoyed, at least we have the freedom to have these conversations.
By Ami on 03.15.09 8:51 pm | Permalink
My sheets are about 84 years old with huge, giant roses scattered all over them. But they’re flannel and COZY.
I hate when people try to argue religion. How can God be represented when people feel angry, judgmental, or superior???
By zaianya on 03.15.09 10:27 pm | Permalink
Hey–got here through tallulah mankiller’s blog. This post…just…wow. I freely admit I didn’t finish it, because…just wow. I will occasionally be seized by patience and a desire to speak with such people, but the older I get, the more I realize that conversations like that are potential hours of my life I ain’t ever gettin’ back. Some dialogues are just over before they’ve begun, and people like that are the reason.
By Andrea on 03.16.09 4:10 am | Permalink
I thought the man was respectful. These type of dialogues, however, never go anywhere. I was raised LDS and am not now. I’m Christian and I like to think of God as a relational God and not a denominational God. I can’t tell you what heaven looks like, and I hope I will never be able to tell you what hell looks like. I follow you and will continue to do so. Your ‘sex’ stuff doesn’t bother me at all, but I think the point the man was trying to make was that maybe talking about your ability to not moan while orgasming on a treadmill isn’t something Christ would approve of telling the world. And maybe talking about “faking it for hot men”…which, lets be honest, people again took this as a reference to an orgasm, and you can’t deny that you titled it that way so people WOULD think that. The Bible (and the Book of Mormon) teach how to love and respect the one you’re married to…maybe telling about how hot your doc is and that you “fake it” for him, maybe to the man, isn’t the best way to show your commitment to your spouse. I’m guessing this is the type of stuff he’s talking about when he says you use sex talk to excite, and say things that appeal to our sinful nature, etc. Not saying I agree with him, just throwing my idea of him out there. And I think you’re doing just fine on the path of Mormonism. And I think you’re funny as hell…I mean, funny as purple.
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By Rebekah on 03.16.09 4:12 am | Permalink
I’m LDS, and I grew up in the South. A boy broke up with me one time after his preacher delivered a sermon against Mormons specifically. Luckily, I was only 12, so I wasn’t too crushed.
I really don’t understand why some people want to force their beliefs on you. This also reminds me of the people who insist that our church is really a sham, but we’re just not in a “high enough” position to know. They’ll say, “I knew a guy who used to be a pretty high up pastor in your church who told me in your temples.” Obviously, he has no idea what he’s talking about. And then you know that it’s not even worth it, but at the same time, this guy is going to perpetuate gross untruths to people who will believe him because they don’t know what we believe. You just can’t win with people like that, you know?
Anyway, sorry for the ramble. My bedsheets don’t match.
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By varangianguard on 03.16.09 6:45 am | Permalink
Did you say this started about BYU? Weird.
Still, most people forget that pride makes them confront others about religion more than love does (no matter what they say). And where does pride fall amongst God’s rulebook?
By SciFi Dad on 03.16.09 8:19 am | Permalink
Twitter: @_scifidad_
The fact that you handled that without expletives proves you are definitely ahead of me in the “get into Heaven” line (you know, if I actually believed in that stuff).
In all seriousness, take a page from Cool Hand Luke (or, Guns ‘n’ Roses, if you must), “What we’ve got here is… failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach, so you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gits it.”
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By Talulah on 03.16.09 9:38 am | Permalink
Twitter: @lulumankiller
My sheets are black, but I’ve got one red pillowcase and one pink striped one, because I somehow managed to lose the FOUR black pillowcases we had.
And don’t even try to imagine what all that mess looks like with a light green bedspread. OY.
Ahem–as for the blog post itself…I have never understood the whole “If you don’t start walking the path, you’re going to BURN!” school of thought. Why would I choose to believe in a God who’s always got one hand on the flame-thrower? And an itchy trigger finger, to boot? And why would you want to convert someone through fear, when the whole point of God is supposed to be love?
My co-religionists puzzle me. This is why I don’t go to church anymore.
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By Kel on 03.16.09 10:26 am | Permalink
What the crap.
You are a person of infinite patience, Casey. I would have lasted maybe about zero minutes. While I’m not Christian, I’m Buddhist, Jesus pretty much rocks in my books (I have my degree in religion and my parents are Christian, so I’m fairly well versed here.) That being said, I’ll never understand the reason for arguing the finer points of what is essentially the same faith… They like their bedsheets and you like yours. In the end, they’re both still bedsheets and both get you to the same place. Bugger off other bedsheet dude… Casey rocks.
By Heather on 03.16.09 10:30 am | Permalink
I’m not meaning to bash you personally Casey, I respect what you know in your church and that you feel it works for your life. But I can’t help but comment.
One of the things that gets me in these comments, and gets me in general about your writing and your explanations of the LDS faith, is this. This is not a matter of denominational differences… this IS a religion difference. Christianity and the LDS faith are NOT the same. You say your church is called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, “Jesus is in the name”… if it’s as simple as Jesus Christ, then why tack on the LDS and all the other stuff that goes with it??
LDS claims to believe in the Bible, but that we’re not in danger of ending up in hell? That there are different degrees to Heaven and that the things we do in this life dictate where we go, when the Bible clearly states it’s about who we know (Christ) and how we know him (which will then play out in our life). That is our salvation period.
LDS is a scary thing to me. I have spent years researching the history and the stated beliefs of the church, on my own and alongside many of my LDS friends. I really don’t understand how anyone can believe the basis of this religion. If you really take a look at it -not just what you’re taught and the way in which you’re taught it- but look at things for yourself it just does not make sense. And not in a “you have to just have faith” or “you have to depend on the ‘burning in your bosom’” kind of not making sense… it just doesn’t add up; divinely or otherwise.
There is a ton of shady stuff going on in the LDS church, and has been for it’s whole life. I’m not talking about on an individual level (because we all know that is true in any religion or denomination), but on an organizational scary control level. And it’s covered up by this religion they play off as so nice and neat and pretty and feel good and everyone looks the other way.
The sliver of redemption of the LDS faith is the fact that they do use the Bible and “believe” in the “same” God and His son Jesus Christ. But sadly, that light of that Truth is overwhelmingly shadowed and downplayed by the other beliefs thrown in there.
That’s what makes it so scary… it’s played off as such a great religion and is so appealing to people searching for something. And I’m not saying it’s a complete farce; people are really happy being LDS. It’s not all bad… in fact the majority of laypeople in the church really have no idea the true “religion” they’re in.
Okay, I didn’t mean to go off like that. I didn’t start this meaning to do that. I just wanted to say, I can see where Man was coming from. I would personally never say ay of that to someone I don’t know well, -calling you on how you’re living your life and being a witness?- and I’m not sure he went about things in a productive way… but I’m impressed with the conversation you two had, even though it seemed to go in circles and end up nowhere better than before.
But I don’t think he sounded prideful or judgmental… just humble and concerned. And I can relate with that when it comes to caring about people in the LDS faith.
By Amy in OHio on 03.16.09 10:33 am | Permalink
I truly believe organized religion was the worst thing to ever happen to God. What a quick job they did of mucking it all up.
Mad respect for how you handled yourself.
This Irish Catholic would have had a totally different approach that would have likely ended in a restraining order. And I sure don’t need another one of those on my record, yo.
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By ali on 03.16.09 10:37 am | Permalink
Twitter: @alimartell
i’m so glad to call you my friend, Casey.
that is all.
oh, well, that and my sheets are brown and blue.
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By Sarah on 03.16.09 11:59 am | Permalink
It always frustrates me when people try to condemn members of ANY church whithout a full knowledge of that religion. I think you did a wonderful job Casey – and for the record… I don’t think you use anything in your posts to feed off of other’s sins. Actually quite the opposite. I think a lot of what you say is inspiring and uplifting more than anything else.
I can’t believe he told you that he doubts you would take a bullet rather than deny Jesus…
Ugh. Okay, okay, my sheets are blue.
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By Melissa on 03.16.09 12:36 pm | Permalink
Oh MY God… You so have other things to deal with than this LIGHT BLUE SHEETS who really has his LIGHT BLUE SHEETS where LIGHT BLUE SHEETS go! Wow, I want to say so much more…
You are a good person, and a great mom, and a great wife, and WAAAAAY more patient than I am….
Flannel light blue sheets rule!
By bekah on 03.16.09 12:46 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @countrymouse_
I feel compelled to say SOMETHING, but I have no idea how, you know? Like…I’m a little floored here. And frustrated.
I guess I almost want to apologize. I think he was trying to be respectful, but I dont agree with the way he went about it. I am a Christian, and while I may not always agree with other religions, I respect that they have made a choice just as I have made one, you know? I dont pretend to believe that you and I believe the same things, that we practice the same religion. I think we definately dont, but that doesnt mean I dont love you. Or that I condemn you. And I believe you would say the same to anyone else that isnt of your religion.
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By Ashley on 03.16.09 1:54 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @AAD108
I am going to name call myself….but thats ok, right?
I’m a Jesus freak christian who loves me some Mormons and anyone who loves God. Any and all people are welcome in my kingdom of heaven.
And I have chocolate brown bedsheets.
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By Biddy on 03.16.09 2:08 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @biddymcbidson
you are a far more patient person than I. while i may not agree with a person’s choice of religion, i never think i’m going to heaven and they’re not. who am i to make that assumption?
like i said, you have a heart of gold, and you’re totally in charge of snacks for the bus ride to heaven.
oh, and my sheets are apple green today. just had to throw that one in there because *OH THE DESIRE TO NAMECALL*
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By Angie on 03.16.09 2:21 pm | Permalink
A person doesn’t have to be a Christian to subscribe to the old saying “Point a finger and see three more pointing back at you.” Man, DUDE, I’m still not sure I understand what you were trying to accomplish by conversing with Casey. Is it because it’s Lent? I want to believe that your intentions were well-meaning. But I just can’t…especially when I think Casey has good, Christian intentions. Man, more than once she’s admitted on this blog to sinful behavior. I have a tremendous respect for her because of it.
So I know I am tetering on the brink of name-calling. I’ll just confess that I’ve owned seven different deadly bedsheets at some point in my life. I’ve made my bed and yes I’ve slept in it. The “sheets” I have right now God knows about. He and I wash them together, daily.
By heidikins on 03.16.09 2:40 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @heidikins13
Umm…..you rock.
That’s all.
You freaking rock.
And you have the patience of Saints.
My sheets are white with lime green polka-dots.
xox
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By Domestic Goddess (In Training) on 03.16.09 2:59 pm | Permalink
It always amazes me that those who profess to be oh so Christian are the ones that are oh so judgemental. I am barely Catholic, but I am pretty sure I am more Christ-like in my “everyone deserves love” philosophy than man was with his “let me tell you why you suck” crap.
And, to avoid calling anyone names… I will just say my sheets are burgundy.
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By April on 03.16.09 3:30 pm | Permalink
Wow! That’s sad he just doesn’t understand our religion at all! I think he wanted you to listen but he didn’t want to listen to what you were saying. It’s sad people learn or hear incorrect things and they totally believe them even when they actually meet someone who can tell them the truth! Hopefully his heart will be softened and he will be able to really listen one day!
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By Bellamomma on 03.16.09 3:53 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @Bellamomma
“Man:
as do i, but the Bible clearly teaches that we should confront those who say they believe but aren’t walking as they should”
1. Someone has GOT to get me a copy of that verse
2. WHY do so many “well meaning, upstanding, perfectly inline with God” Christians believe that they can take that verse & use it as a battering ram against the lesser people who don’t believe as well as they do?
Suburban Turmoil just got hit by that same battering ram … it’s enough to make the rest of us keep our lights hidden under bushels. Apparently if you can’t be perfect you better keep your faith hidden around the internets. Good to know.
I have BRIGHT teal green bedsheets. My MIL bought them for me, but they are 1,000 thread count so I forgive the hidious color.
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By Nic on 03.16.09 5:18 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @notperfect
You are FAR more patient than I. I wouldn’t have continued that conversation. There are many people who don’t necessarily practice the same form of Christianity as I do, with regards to denomination and such, but that doesn’t bother me. I also like non-Christians too, and don’t believe they’ve been condemned or anything like that. Good people who live giving, caring, loving lives? Why would I ever, ever object to that?
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By Sasha on 03.16.09 5:31 pm | Permalink
Wow Casey. I know the conversation was supposed to be about religion but I couldn’t help but envision some weirdo trying to grab you and pull you into their van (so to speak). I’m glad you didn’t accept a skype conversation with this person. Maybe I am overreacting because I have had a stalker, but that convo tone gave me the creeps.
As for the topic itself. I don’t know you IRL but I can tell you are a good person and I would consider you a sister because of that goodness that radiates from you and I would have no doubt even though I am Catholic and you are LDS that we will both be in heaven together which ever path we took to get there.
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By Amber on 03.16.09 5:32 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @SilverAmberz
What scares me is how whack jobs like this are given more of a voice in our political system which is supposed to be “tolerable to ALL religions” than so many other religions. I don’t see where it’s anyone’s business (but your own) what you believe and whether you are going to hell or not. If salvation and heaven are your concern, shouldn’t that be personal and private between you and whatever version of a deity you feel is the right one for you?
And I don’t see where he gets that your blog is very un-biblical. Seems to me you focus a lot on having a loving family that supports the members within it and helping others. Sure, some of it might be about other things but no one spends ALL their time worrying about if what they are thinking and doing is sinful or not, or no one would ever get anything done.
The “holier than thou” crap is probably what drives a lot of people AWAY from religion.
By Emily R on 03.16.09 5:38 pm | Permalink
I really dislike when people think they know more about a religion than someone who *practices* that religion.
Light green.
Dark lipsticky red.
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By Kelli on 03.16.09 5:38 pm | Permalink
This week’s bedsheets are green.
This here Catholic married an Episcapalin. We divorced and I proceeded to date a Methodist, a Baptist, and even a Buddist (can you imagine?) My best friend from high school is Jewish. And I sat next to a Morman (is that not the correct term anymore) at Blissdom09 (that’s you) that made me laugh my butt off.
PS – while we’re Catholic and go to mass every week, we live in the bible belt in VA and so we get alot of Baptists going door to door to invite people to thier church and their best offer is that they will pick you up on Sunday and take you. My mom always asks if the bus has air conditioning…
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By Jen on 03.16.09 5:57 pm | Permalink
Hey Casey, I read your blog all the time but have never commented. I just wanted to say my two cents here. I am totally not religious at all, I was raised Catholic but really all that means to me is that I celebrate Christmas and Easter. However what I DO strongly believe is that if we all try our hardest to be good people to the fullest extent of your own ability then we will go the heaven or whatever that nice place is when we pass. Their are a million different religions on this earth. In my opinion they can all be right… Someone has it wrong. But no one of us on this earth knows which is right. Why hate on other religions? We are each entitled to believe what we believe and that’s that. As long as what you believe is in a loving manner then just let others be. This guy attacking you for not believing what he does is wrong and extremely hateful and totally negates his cause. If God created us all then he meant for us to all love and respect each other equally. I don’t know maybe that’s just what I believe.
As for you being Mormon. I have never met a Mormon person before because I grew up on NY my whole life. Honestly you have showed me that people of your religion are not weird or different or whatever just people of another faith. I think you do a lovely job of sharing where you come from without forcing anything on anyone else.
So in closing I think your lovely and this guy is just a big poop head =)
By Momo Fali on 03.16.09 6:58 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @momofali
I’m Catholic, I have white sheets and I love you.
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By Domestic Extraordinaire on 03.16.09 7:33 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @hdurdil
You rock.
My sheets are grey suprima cotton…so soft!
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By Shelley on 03.16.09 8:29 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @ShhhEllie
Delurking to say you have amazing patience. Religion is a very personal choice.
Oh, and my sheet are bright yellow.
By Christina on 03.16.09 11:06 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @mommystory
You handled that with far more patience and even-headed-ness than many people.
I’ve never understood why people get so upset over who is believing in the right god. Unless someone has discussed divine law with the almighty over tea, they can’t be 100% sure they’ve got it all right.
We’re all imperfect. And many of us do our best to live good lives. I don’t need to know a person believes the same as me to know she’s a good person and a friend.
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By Redneck Mommy on 03.17.09 1:04 am | Permalink
I don’t comment often on your blog Case, but that is only because I feel I don’t need to. You KNOW how much you mean to me and how much I cherish our friendship.
You AND your beliefs have brought me profound moments of peace when I needed them most.
We may not belong to the same club but I do believe we love the same Jesus.
It bothers me more than I can freely articulate without busting out the curse words you despise that this person was not listening to you and not hearing you speak. I just want to shake him on your behalf. Argh.
There is not a day that goes by that I am not thankful for our friendship and for the way you have and continue to challenge me to inspect and examine and strengthen my own beliefs.
I love you chicklet.
By Heidi on 03.17.09 1:43 am | Permalink
Twitter: @slightlycosmo
You titled your post right. This is exactly the kind of stuff that makes it hard to find God. I grew up in a staunchly Baptist home, with a staunchly conservative Christian father, attending staunchly conservative evangelical churches. And you know what? I think all that “staunchness” served to hurt and divide and offend and deflect more than it did to love and draw close to others. I’m much happier now that the staunchness has settled, and my relationship with God also has much more peace. And I also seem to have more opportunities to share my faith, not preachy faith, but just “this-is-how-I-live-it” faith. Go figure.
You done good. Keep being the Mormon you are. I’m pretty sure God takes us all where we’re at, and then it’s up to Him to do with us what He wants to make us into the best versions of ourselves.
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By heather on 03.17.09 2:36 am | Permalink
Everything that is to be said about that conversation has already been said, but that reminded me, I miss your teaching entries. The learn about my religion entries. Those were very informative and I think they need to come back!! Pretty please?
By Dugi on 03.17.09 9:48 am | Permalink
Twitter: @durgao
Casey, this guy so wants to get into your pants.
This whole convo was not about his concerns with the church or your faith or your salvation.
It’s his psychotic obsession and fetish to engage you in conversation.
Trust me.
I’ve come across weirdo’s like him before…they have no valid points to make and just don’t make sense. at all.
They say they don’t like u, ur life, faith, what u say, do….but they can’t leave u alone…they can’t stop reading ur blog or wanting to chat.
Don’t indulge him any further…
ignore him.
it’s the kind and sane thing to do.
By Alis on 03.17.09 12:59 pm | Permalink
I heard it once said that the greatest cause of Atheism in the world today is Christians.
~Ex-Adventist, Ex-Badventist, Ex-Non-denominational Christian, possibly part New Ager, part Atheist, part doing what works for me.
Live & let live.
Casey, If you want to hear my story email me. I’m not ready to put it out there for the whole world.
By Jolene on 03.17.09 4:24 pm | Permalink
I”m LDS. I hate people who talk in circles which is what I get when people confront me like “man”
You’re awesome. You write about life. You make it funny. Sex is part of life. Getting naked in front of hot docs is life. I admire you for putting it all out there. Cuz we’ve all been there, even if we don’t have the guts to talk about it.
Thanks.
By mrs. r on 03.17.09 5:02 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @therhouse
oh man …i am glad i am not the only person who gets this kind of contact.
just like jolene said above me, it is typical anti-mormon behavior to talk in circles, to ask questions and not wait for the answers.
i usually say, “do you really want to know or are you just checking to see if i know?”
you did a great job? why are people so mean when it comes to religion?
he doesn’t give a rat’s a about your salvation and if he really did represent my Jesus he would have been a lot nice to my friend.
i hope he sits on a tack.
…errr is that name calling?
…errrr, my winter sheets are tan, my summer sheets are yellow.
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By Reagan on 03.17.09 6:13 pm | Permalink
I can’t believe how long you tolerated that!
My bed sheets have snowflakes on them!!!!
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By metalia on 03.17.09 9:02 pm | Permalink
I know we already spoke about this, but just know that you are loved by SO MANY of us. I know it’s hard, but try to put out of your mind what this jerk had to say. Big, BIG hugs to you. xoxoxo
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By Swiggy on 03.17.09 11:08 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @meswiggy
I’m a devout heathen. And, as long as you don’t try and tell me my way of doing things is wrong, I don’t give one hoot what you practice – I love you just the way you are.
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By Melissa on 03.18.09 10:19 am | Permalink
Twitter: @MelissaWPhotos
I’ve been reading your blog for quite a while now. I am also a Christian (non-denominational), and I have never read anything remotely offensive on your blog.
This guy must be reading a different blog.
On top of that, you don’t change someone’s mind about their religious beliefs by criticizing them.
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By Melissa on 03.18.09 10:47 am | Permalink
Twitter: @MelissaWPhotos
I find that your blog is inspiring. I suffer from fertility problems and PCOS also. Your blog lets me know that I am not alone in the sadness and humiliation of it all.
You give true insights into the human condition.
By the way, God created sex, and marriage, and babies. There is nothing that you have discussed that I have found to be sinful.
There are so many “Christians” out there who give most of us a bad reputation. We are to speak the truth in love and not be judgemental or condemn others for their beliefs. Only God can judge.
This man seems a bit confused about that. Christians are to be accountable to other Christians in their church family, but we are not to judge those outside the church. That is God’s responsibility.
I know that you are a good, kind, person and your relationship with God is between you and Him.
My job, as a Christian, is to live a life that glorifies Him so that others will notice and inquire about my faith. Only God can bring people to Himself.
You are a beautiful person and God loves you. That is all I need to know. =o)
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By Christy on 03.18.09 7:09 pm | Permalink
I am not LDS, I’m a plain jane Christ follower. I just have to say that your posts encourage and uplift all those who read them, and your being so transparent is a true representation of what God desires of our lives and that is to love your neighbor as yourself and to Love God with all your heart. Your love for others and for God is very apparent in how much you share with all those around you. You have encouraged me so many times and filled me with joy with that great gift of Gab that God has bestowed upon you!
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By Christy on 03.18.09 7:19 pm | Permalink
Oops forgot to tell you about my sheets… pale green with interesting brown shapes along with an unpleasant smell due to my beautiful 2lb teacup chihuahua climbing in to bed with us ( I gotta take care of that)
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By Vickie on 03.19.09 3:22 pm | Permalink
I wish everyone would accept the missionaries over so they could learn what LDS really believe instead telling us what what they think we believe.
And for the man – he’s doing the best with what he’s got. Maybe someday he’ll be ready for more.
By Elisabeth on 03.20.09 9:26 am | Permalink
Ok, I’ve never even posted before ever and I’m not even Mormon (I grew up in Columbus, Indiana and now I live in Salt Lake City, so we do have commonalities with locations and culture).
But this just…enrages me! I think everybody has a story like this with ignorant people who are not willing to think outside the box and accept LDS ppl. That guy was NOT a good representative of what he considers his religion. UGH. And he has no idea what being LDS is about, obviously! Jesus is different? WHATEVER! Personally I think God is God. People have different names for him but he’s still GOD, right?
I recently visited the Draper temple for the first time because they hadn’t dedicated it yet and I wanted to go inside…and I definitely felt the Lord there! (Or Heavenly Father as you all like to say
). It was a blessing to go, and a wonderful experience. I’m going to another temple here this summer as well, and bringing my boyfriend this time around. So peaceful and beautiful!
But back to the Man. Trust me, we’ve all had horrible experiences with these types of people. I was reading a thread about the Duggars on television without pity, which is that family with 18 kids on tlc, and somebody was saying how the Duggar’s oldest son’s wedding was a lot like LDS weddings. They then “explained” that LDS weddings are all about inviting as many people as possible to get as many presents as possible. I just sat there like…”WHA??” I mean, my friends who are LDS were all married in the TEMPLE and hardly anyone was there for their wedding and sealing so obviously this person didn’t have a clue! Yet this person claimed “the majority of LDS weddings are huge” and that they’d gone to one in a “mormon church.” I had to laugh at this because if they meant having one in the temple, they obviously made it up (I really don’t think some weirdo like that who isn’t even LDS is going to get a recommend! DOH!). And then everybody on the thread was like “oh really? oh those crazy mormons.” I HATE that! Why do they think we’re weird? (I say “we” because I’ve now lived here for 6 years and I totally self identify with the customs of SLC at this point!) Yeah, LDS people are my friends and some are even like family at this point, and all of them are GOOD people.
So I agree with you…we are children of God and we’re going to get to heaven. Please don’t let this weirdo get under your skin! I’m sure he’ll face these types of things when he is judged, like, “where you a smarty pants to people who are a different denomination than you are?” Hee!
And how in the world are your posts non-biblical? Oh my HECK! I’ve seen nothing immodest in your posts, I think they are quite touching, actually.
Anyway, I’ll stick up for ya, girl!!! Darn the man! Ok, I’m off my (LDS) soapbox now.
By mamalang on 03.22.09 1:18 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @mamalang
Several years ago, I had a conversation with my then Pastor that summed up my take on current religion perfecty. He made the point that in the current world, most people church shop…they aren’t looking at the denomination so much as the “church” that makes them most comfortable. My mom church shopped as I grew up, and I’ve been exposed to numerous religions. LDS didn’t bother me…I actually enjoyed that church while we went. Other churches/religions I had serious issues with. I do not believe there is only one path (religion) that will get you to heaven…I believe that doing your best to follow his teachings and be a good person will do that. Religion is just he mechanism to make sure you are following the guidelines.
I’m not sure I could have continued that conversation as long as you did. I have very little tolerance for people who sit in judgement of other people’s choices.
And just for the record, I find it amusing that I read a lot of LDS members on the net…has blogging become part of the outreach program? (I am totally just kidding. I think it’s more a matter of you all being more open to sharing your religion)
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By Robert Gonzalez on 03.24.09 3:44 pm | Permalink
So many crazy Christians… I am a non-denominational Christian as well, and if there is one thing that turns me off more than anything about “my own kind” is the seemingly unending desire we have to try to win souls for Christ. Goodness gracious, He is able to do anything. He doesn’t need us to win anyone. He never even told us to do that. His commission is simple, go into all the world and preach the Gospel. Not convert people, not judge people, not threaten people. Preach the Gospel. And in that He also gave us the commandment of loving your neighbor as yourself. Not judging your neighbor, not converting your neighbor, none of that.
I think your response was awesome and that you handled it very well. God bless you.
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By Emma on 03.26.09 4:22 pm | Permalink
Twitter: @shortymcstompy
Wow my bedsheets are sooo pink!!!! Well done Mrs you handled the situation very well and much better than a lot of people would’ve.
By Erin on 03.27.09 8:20 am | Permalink
Twitter: @eswiss
I won’t name-call, despite my desire to do so.
However, I will say that I wish more people would take your view on religion. I don’t care who/what you worship (if you do at all) as long as your faith A) creates good in your life B) helps you do good things and C) doesn’t interfere with MY faith or lack thereof.
By Sarcomical on 04.08.09 1:27 am | Permalink
wow. i applaud your patience to even give him an audience for as long as you did.
this is a precise example of what disillusioned me the most about much of organized religion years ago. what could he have possibly gained by going that far to try to bait you into saying you were going to hell?
what a glaring specimen of how to live unhappily.
you handled him with class.
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By Katie on 04.10.09 9:56 am | Permalink
My sheets are purple. But I like you.
I don’t know if this is something that only happens in Indiana, but I’m sure it isn’t. People like him are what makes me reluctant to admit I’m even a Christian. People like him, spreading irrational intolerance, are what make me regret always going to Christian schools. I think the major problem with churches is that the majority of the members think their way is the only way, and instead of kindly and respectfully trying to convince people that their opinion is correct, they insult and demean the other person’s chosen religion, making themselves look like an idiot in the process.
Anyway, I like you. Good work.
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By Kelsey on 04.12.09 4:11 pm | Permalink
I have the undeniable urge to now punch someone in the face.
I have respect for people’s opinions, but sometimes they are SO undeniably rude that it irritates the crap out of me.
By Kelsey on 04.12.09 4:12 pm | Permalink
but good job keeping you’re cool and remaining a loyal daughter of the Lord in your conversation. very repectable! I don’t know if I could have!
By heather on 05.22.09 8:45 am | Permalink
wow. no wonder your eyes got big last night when we told you matt was a pastor. sheesh. i’m sorry….well…one more lesson learned and experience checked off the list. (the experience being phone conversation with mormon-hater)
love the blog!
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